Jesus, Mother Fuckers and Death Penalty.
Killing people is an exciting subject, I was reading Ares's post "Death: Is it ours to take?" and that make me write my own post. Please read Ares's blog first - that is a very analytical post.
Capital punishment is always a crowd pleaser and entertaining event. We used to drag the subject around the city with drums and horns and large crowd stop their daily work and gather to watch the exciting event. They talk about it afterward. Nowadays we do the same thing with Newspapers and Television. We simply like to kill people who do not follow our values - we may execute them, we may bomb them, we may fly them in to buildings. No matter how we do it, at the end of the day humans get excited by killing other humans.
Some times back China had a policy of sending a bill to the surviving family for the cost of the bullet used to kill their loved ones. Now china has mobile death bus shuttle from town to town. America keeps juveniles in death row until they grow in to legal age. We Sri Lankans are lucky not to practice capital punishment. Even though Sri Lanka pretends to be a Buddhist country, we reactivated the death penalty couple of years back.
Capital punishment perfectly fulfill 5 Buddhist conditions of 'evil act of killing'
1) a living being
2) knowledge or awareness it is a living being
3) intention of killing
4) effort to kill, and
5) consequent death
Ares's post ask an question "If your family was hacked to death by someone, will you not want that person to suffer the same fate?". Well. We are talking about a mother fucker right here. So let's assume for a minute it is alright to hang a mother fucker... But can we prove every time we are killing the correct offender? Answer is NO. With DNS evidence, significant number of people in American death row were able to prove they are innocence. Now compare US government and Sri Lankan government. Do you honestly thinks same people who can't operate a CTB bus or balance a budget or deliver a mail, should take life and death decisions?
Now here is the paradox. If we wrongly execute one innocent human, we all deserve capital punishment for wrongly taking a life of another person. There are large number of proven wrong executions in USA. So why not they kill who have funded, backed and take those wrong decisions. How it is possible to wrongly kill someone and not get killed for it, if you are wearing a black coat, but not if you are wearing a black t-shirt?
Anyway, I don't think personal pain justify killing a human. Yes. We should eliminate those mother fuckers who rape and hack people to death. We have a place call Jail for it. We may even get scientists or doctors to figure out what is wrong with them in the future and fix those loosen nuts in their heads.
There are no evil people in this world, only people who have done evil act. Prabkaran a good father; Gandhi is not, Hitler known to be a vegetarian, world worst serial-killer becomes a Buddhist monk, Virginia Tech Killer a Bullied Autistic. We don't even treat for autism in our schools.
Death Penalty is just another way to get to gather and kill a human. We don't get any exclusive productive output form that except illusion of control and and satisfaction of revenge.
We execute people for any reasons - for killing other people, use of drugs without prescription, adultery, theft, not only that, we even execute people for not believing in Jesus. Oh! Jesus? We executed him too!
Capital punishment is always a crowd pleaser and entertaining event. We used to drag the subject around the city with drums and horns and large crowd stop their daily work and gather to watch the exciting event. They talk about it afterward. Nowadays we do the same thing with Newspapers and Television. We simply like to kill people who do not follow our values - we may execute them, we may bomb them, we may fly them in to buildings. No matter how we do it, at the end of the day humans get excited by killing other humans.
Some times back China had a policy of sending a bill to the surviving family for the cost of the bullet used to kill their loved ones. Now china has mobile death bus shuttle from town to town. America keeps juveniles in death row until they grow in to legal age. We Sri Lankans are lucky not to practice capital punishment. Even though Sri Lanka pretends to be a Buddhist country, we reactivated the death penalty couple of years back.
Capital punishment perfectly fulfill 5 Buddhist conditions of 'evil act of killing'
1) a living being
2) knowledge or awareness it is a living being
3) intention of killing
4) effort to kill, and
5) consequent death
Ares's post ask an question "If your family was hacked to death by someone, will you not want that person to suffer the same fate?". Well. We are talking about a mother fucker right here. So let's assume for a minute it is alright to hang a mother fucker... But can we prove every time we are killing the correct offender? Answer is NO. With DNS evidence, significant number of people in American death row were able to prove they are innocence. Now compare US government and Sri Lankan government. Do you honestly thinks same people who can't operate a CTB bus or balance a budget or deliver a mail, should take life and death decisions?
Now here is the paradox. If we wrongly execute one innocent human, we all deserve capital punishment for wrongly taking a life of another person. There are large number of proven wrong executions in USA. So why not they kill who have funded, backed and take those wrong decisions. How it is possible to wrongly kill someone and not get killed for it, if you are wearing a black coat, but not if you are wearing a black t-shirt?
Anyway, I don't think personal pain justify killing a human. Yes. We should eliminate those mother fuckers who rape and hack people to death. We have a place call Jail for it. We may even get scientists or doctors to figure out what is wrong with them in the future and fix those loosen nuts in their heads.
There are no evil people in this world, only people who have done evil act. Prabkaran a good father; Gandhi is not, Hitler known to be a vegetarian, world worst serial-killer becomes a Buddhist monk, Virginia Tech Killer a Bullied Autistic. We don't even treat for autism in our schools.
Death Penalty is just another way to get to gather and kill a human. We don't get any exclusive productive output form that except illusion of control and and satisfaction of revenge.
We execute people for any reasons - for killing other people, use of drugs without prescription, adultery, theft, not only that, we even execute people for not believing in Jesus. Oh! Jesus? We executed him too!
posted by Sam at
8:59 PM
7 Comments:
"Now compare US government and Sri Lankan government. Do you honestly thinks same people who can't operate a CTB bus or balance a budget or deliver a mail, should take life and death decisions?"
The government doesn't make those decisions, the supreme court does. They would not pass a death sentence unless guilt is proven beyond doubt.
"We may even get scientists or doctors to figure out what is wrong with them in the future and fix those loosen nuts in their heads."
I'd rather have those psychopaths killed so that they don't have an opportunity to pass on their corrupt genes.
Two people responsible for that mass massacre were shot dead by the police in point blank range. Do you think that this was not an extra judicial execution? If there was death penalty would they have done that?
Soldiers make life and death decisions every minute in the battlefield. How many times have our judicial system failed to properly punish LTTE terrorists for lack of evidence. This is why the army would prefer to kill suspected terrorists without arresting them. Would they do that if there was death penalty.
//They would not pass a death sentence unless guilt is proven beyond doubt.//
So you are telling me Jesus is criminal eh?
By the way Here is exonerated list form USA.
My mistake, we are talking about Sri Lanka. Sorry.
Talking about Supreme Court, Is that same CJ (Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) still around? The one that bangs girls in his car on the way home? You know who I'm talking about? The one that judge a case against himself and put accuser in jail?
International Bar Association said that there was "an overwhelming need for an independent credible judicial system" in Sri Lanka. So You are telling me same people who cannot settle a land case for 14 years should make life and death decisions? The same person who have sex in his car on the way home at Jayawardanapura roadside, should make life and death decisions?
So you agree we should have executed Karunasena and Ratnayake in Bindunuwewa case since Supreme Court found them guilty?
// I'd rather have those psychopaths killed so that they don't have an opportunity to pass on their corrupt genes.//
Are you 100% sure there is no crook in your genes history? At least last 500 years?
Now if a lawbreaker is a result of corrupt genes, they are sick. They are handicap. We not suppose to kill sick people. Are you really suggesting we should kill handicaps?
Anyway I don’t believe genes has anything do with killing people.
//Two people responsible for that mass massacre were shot dead by the police in point blank range. Do you think that this was not an extra judicial execution?// Indeed they are. There are executions alright.
// If there was death penalty would they have done that?// I don't know. But I guess so. There is death penalty in US and still police shoot and kill people.
Armies don't arrest people by the way. They don’t carry handcuffs. They have big guns and fighter jets.
The president can veto executions if they are unjust and opposed by the public (eg: Bindunuweva case).
What does CJ's personal life has to do with his professional integrity. Do you even know the difference between civil and criminal courts? Land cases are not tried in criminal courts. Anyway, trials being delayed is a good thing because the accused would have time to prove his innocence.
What do you suggest that we do with these criminals? Put them in jail? Do you want to put handicapped people in jail? Dearie me!
Genes and upbringing have a lot to do with criminal inclination. These criminals must not be allowed to taint our genepool. In nature, they would be eliminated through natural selection. We have to do the same.
The reason that police shoot and kill a lot of people in US is due to wide gun ownership by criminals. They hardly ever kill unarmed people.
Executing criminals are a good deterrent to future crime. Even if we don't allow legal execution, the police and the public would kill criminals anyway. You know how people burn drunk drivers to death when they run someone over. Why do you think so many terrorist supporters in Colombo are being abducted in white vans and killed? Because our legal system always sets them free.
Death penalty is alive and active in Sri Lanka. It just happens to be extra judicial. There's no way we can stop it, so why not just make it legal.
//Death penalty is alive and active in Sri Lanka. It just happens to be extra judicial. There's no way we can stop it, so why not just make it legal.//
Hmm.. Good point. moonshining alive and active in Sri Lanka. It is just happened to be illegal. There is no way we can stop it, so why not just make it legal?
Raping is alive and active. Why not make that legal? Sorry. Wrong logic.
//The reason that police shoot and kill a lot of people in US is due to wide gun ownership by criminals. They hardly ever kill unarmed people.//
I happened to be in NY at the time, Unarmed Groom Killed by NYPD with 50 round of bullet.
//What do you suggest that we do with these criminals? Put them in jail? Do you want to put handicapped people in jail? Dearie me!//
Yes indeed. Put them in jail. We already have well organized system of handling handicapped or normal criminals. It is far better than killing.
By the way I do not believe criminals are handicap (that is your logic). They are just humans who have done wrong choices.
//What does CJ's personal life has to do with his professional integrity.//
Sorry. I didn’t mention anything about CJ’s personal life. Everything I said above his public life (assuming, public roads are public). Please read the book “Unfinished Struggle” for further details.
Wow! Does CJ really have integrity?
// The president can veto executions if they are unjust and opposed by the public//
Wrong logic. President can veto even it is not unjust and even it is not opposed by the public.
// Genes and upbringing have a lot to do with criminal inclination. These criminals must not be allowed to taint our genepool.//
Wonder where Jesus got his bad gene from? From God or BVM?
Even though my commonsense do not allow me to agree with your pseudoscience logic, there is no reproduction in Jail too.
What is your next step by the way? Identify wrong genes and kill the babies before they grow up?
// Do you even know the difference between civil and criminal courts?//
Criminal court, civil court, postal service, CTB bus conductors, policemen all are government servants. I do not trust any of them on life and death situations. I guess I made that clear in the first place.
// You know how people burn drunk drivers to death when they run someone over.//
you are suggesting death penalty for Drive Intoxicated? Wow! So you think Paris Hilton should be killed?
You intentionally ignore my main point in both answers. Do you willing to rick executing an innocent victim in this process? When that happens, are you willing to face death penalty yourself for killing an innocent person?
Thank you for the comments.
Hi and hope you don't mind my random comment, here are my thoughts.
I think that in the case of killings, once guilt has been determined then the family of the victim should decide the penalty. Maybe a financial recompense, or prison time, or the life of the killer.
I think that forgiveness is best, but sometimes when we are wronged we cannot find the strength to forgive. Justice should be the outer limit of what penalty we can impose -- "an eye for an eye" -- but any forgiveness we can find in our hearts, even a mitigated penalty, is better for our souls.
In the US, the death penalty is more expensive than life in prison because of the appeals process. Seems like a waste of money to me.
Most of the comments here are written by people who are barely literate. I think every person's right to be heard should be respected. However, if one wants to be taken seriously, one should learn to use the english language competently. Look at the first paragraph of the first comment. Is this person serious? Let's get it together folks.
//if one wants to be taken seriously, one should learn to use the English language competently. //
Do not agree. Have you heard of Dalai Lama or French president?
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